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	<title>Comments on: New Provisional License Laws</title>
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	<description>Promoting good driving by exposing bad driving in Ireland</description>
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		<title>By: Gareth Caldwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you apply for an irish driving license even if you are from Northern Ireland</description>
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		<title>By: manu</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/10/26/new-provisional-license-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>manu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue with L drivers most certainly needs to be addressed, however the options and penalties that have recently been presented are incomplete to say the least. The reason for this..... &lt;strong&gt;The L driver scare was only put onto the news to take the heat off the main story which was Bertie&#039;s massive pay rise!&lt;/strong&gt; It is a slow time for journalism so Bertie&#039;s spin team knew that this issue would cause enough of a furore so as to distract from this salary increase. That is why it was so quickly retracted again, it was never really an issue for them, they just made it up, threw it in to shadow a real media story, wait until people no longer cared what Bertie earns&#160;and now they find that they must iron out the details. Unfortunately, it was never about the L drivers, but it is a subject which at last can now be tackled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue with L drivers most certainly needs to be addressed, however the options and penalties that have recently been presented are incomplete to say the least. The reason for this&#8230;.. <strong>The L driver scare was only put onto the news to take the heat off the main story which was Bertie&#39;s massive pay rise!</strong> It is a slow time for journalism so Bertie&#39;s spin team knew that this issue would cause enough of a furore so as to distract from this salary increase. That is why it was so quickly retracted again, it was never really an issue for them, they just made it up, threw it in to shadow a real media story, wait until people no longer cared what Bertie earns&nbsp;and now they find that they must iron out the details. Unfortunately, it was never about the L drivers, but it is a subject which at last can now be tackled.</p>
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		<title>By: Feargal</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/10/26/new-provisional-license-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>Feargal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melanie, every single learner driver I see on the M1 is breaking the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melanie, every single learner driver I see on the M1 is breaking the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: vin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think if we passed the full licensed exam we the the learners driver would be a good driver???i dont think so,because that is a form of self discipline and patience..Mostly here in ireland it is the youngters who commited most of the accidents,and not all learners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think if we passed the full licensed exam we the the learners driver would be a good driver???i dont think so,because that is a form of self discipline and patience..Mostly here in ireland it is the youngters who commited most of the accidents,and not all learners.</p>
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		<title>By: cutie</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/10/26/new-provisional-license-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1711</link>
		<dc:creator>cutie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tell you frankly,i dont think it would be fair and just to all Learner drivers.Because not all learner driver are stubborn,though some.But we have seen some of the full holder drivers license people are the worst drivers compared to the learner ones.But as far as i know a lot of learner drivers knows how to drive because back at home we drive for a longer years now.And</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tell you frankly,i dont think it would be fair and just to all Learner drivers.Because not all learner driver are stubborn,though some.But we have seen some of the full holder drivers license people are the worst drivers compared to the learner ones.But as far as i know a lot of learner drivers knows how to drive because back at home we drive for a longer years now.And</p>
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		<title>By: meanie</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/10/26/new-provisional-license-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1686</link>
		<dc:creator>meanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d never thought in a million years i&#039;d be saying this but L-drivers are a soft target. at least they stick to the rules, ( until they pass their test)&#160;as the old saying goes. you drive like miss daisy then fuck the rule book out the window.
maybe niall can do another survey . who are safer L-drivers or full license holders.
the reason i&#039;m posting today is because of another near miss. coming over santry fly over from beaumont going to omni. i&#039;m in the nearside lane ( left lane) some fucking gobshite comes tearing down on my right going straight. i caught up with him and let a triad of abuse at him, asking if he saw the markings. he saw the green light alright&#160;but what he failed to see and this is one of the most common things i&#039;ve seen with lousy drivers ,is that&#160; THEY DONT SEE THE MARKINGS ON THE ROAD. this guy was going straight in a right hand turn only lane.
you might say it&#039;s road rage on my behalf, fair enough.
my point is if your going to be a right arse hole dont take me with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#39;d never thought in a million years i&#39;d be saying this but L-drivers are a soft target. at least they stick to the rules, ( until they pass their test)&nbsp;as the old saying goes. you drive like miss daisy then fuck the rule book out the window.<br />
maybe niall can do another survey . who are safer L-drivers or full license holders.<br />
the reason i&#39;m posting today is because of another near miss. coming over santry fly over from beaumont going to omni. i&#39;m in the nearside lane ( left lane) some fucking gobshite comes tearing down on my right going straight. i caught up with him and let a triad of abuse at him, asking if he saw the markings. he saw the green light alright&nbsp;but what he failed to see and this is one of the most common things i&#39;ve seen with lousy drivers ,is that&nbsp; THEY DONT SEE THE MARKINGS ON THE ROAD. this guy was going straight in a right hand turn only lane.<br />
you might say it&#39;s road rage on my behalf, fair enough.<br />
my point is if your going to be a right arse hole dont take me with you.</p>
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		<title>By: lette</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/10/26/new-provisional-license-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>lette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well its postponed now till June, untill Dempsey looks at it further!! would he not have looked and thought about it b4 putting it out there?? the incompetance of it all astounds me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well its postponed now till June, untill Dempsey looks at it further!! would he not have looked and thought about it b4 putting it out there?? the incompetance of it all astounds me!</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/10/26/new-provisional-license-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they&#039;re doing now is to scare as many people into taking the test and I&#039;m sure testers have been told to pass as many drivers as possible. I&#039;ve been hearing rumors of 90% pass rates, rather than the usual below 50%.
The government has said the current waiting time will be slashed even though 300 people per hour are applying to take the test. To think that they can test more people in a shorter time with the same resources applying the same standards is mathematically impossible and illogical.
In other words: Test and pass as many people in as short a time as possible. this is nothing more than a second amnesty, disguised as a proper pass.
So, if you want a licence for anything, now&#039;s the time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they&#39;re doing now is to scare as many people into taking the test and I&#39;m sure testers have been told to pass as many drivers as possible. I&#39;ve been hearing rumors of 90% pass rates, rather than the usual below 50%.<br />
The government has said the current waiting time will be slashed even though 300 people per hour are applying to take the test. To think that they can test more people in a shorter time with the same resources applying the same standards is mathematically impossible and illogical.<br />
In other words: Test and pass as many people in as short a time as possible. this is nothing more than a second amnesty, disguised as a proper pass.<br />
So, if you want a licence for anything, now&#39;s the time!</p>
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		<title>By: lette</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/10/26/new-provisional-license-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1665</link>
		<dc:creator>lette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes in prencipal its a good idea, but they didnt think this through at all:
well I passed my test 4 years ago, im glad, but besides that, I dont like this new law, I understand those on their first provisional needing someone with them, as they have no experience at all, but those on their 2nd usually have some experience, and I believe it to be important that people on their 2nd to gain experience without people being with them, now that is not feesable in some cases as some people only start driving on their 2nd. and its not always possible to find someone experienced to drive with you all of the time!!! I know its not possible to do, but it would be more in their line to asses people on their individual experience and then tell them if they need someone with them or not, like do a pretest or something!
Whats worse is, I realise they are putting this law into effect so that those on their 2nd will hurry to do their test, and then we all will have full licences, but HOW?? considering it can take anything from 8 months to over a year at the moment to be calles, all I can see this law doing is creating even more of a backlog!!!Im wondering if what the transport minister did back in the 70&#8217;s would be a good idea to clear the back log, remember when he gave a one time oppertunity for all those on 2nd privisionals to just walk in and get a full licence. It wouldnt mean that all those people are fantastic drivers, but atlease the backlog would dissapier, it was acceptible in the 70&#8217;s and we survived it, whould it not owrk just as well now??also I can see those on their 2nd provisional, taking off their L plates, test done or not, to avoid being pulled. then we have a bigger problem!!! I know people who said they would do this, so it will happen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes in prencipal its a good idea, but they didnt think this through at all:<br />
well I passed my test 4 years ago, im glad, but besides that, I dont like this new law, I understand those on their first provisional needing someone with them, as they have no experience at all, but those on their 2nd usually have some experience, and I believe it to be important that people on their 2nd to gain experience without people being with them, now that is not feesable in some cases as some people only start driving on their 2nd. and its not always possible to find someone experienced to drive with you all of the time!!! I know its not possible to do, but it would be more in their line to asses people on their individual experience and then tell them if they need someone with them or not, like do a pretest or something!<br />
Whats worse is, I realise they are putting this law into effect so that those on their 2nd will hurry to do their test, and then we all will have full licences, but HOW?? considering it can take anything from 8 months to over a year at the moment to be calles, all I can see this law doing is creating even more of a backlog!!!Im wondering if what the transport minister did back in the 70&rsquo;s would be a good idea to clear the back log, remember when he gave a one time oppertunity for all those on 2nd privisionals to just walk in and get a full licence. It wouldnt mean that all those people are fantastic drivers, but atlease the backlog would dissapier, it was acceptible in the 70&rsquo;s and we survived it, whould it not owrk just as well now??also I can see those on their 2nd provisional, taking off their L plates, test done or not, to avoid being pulled. then we have a bigger problem!!! I know people who said they would do this, so it will happen!</p>
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		<title>By: SE kabo</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/10/26/new-provisional-license-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-1663</link>
		<dc:creator>SE kabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a foreigner I have been driving more than 25 years in my home with license C. I did 4 riving test and I think if i want to bass the triving test I have to chang my skin colour first. No bod control the drive tester</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a foreigner I have been driving more than 25 years in my home with license C. I did 4 riving test and I think if i want to bass the triving test I have to chang my skin colour first. No bod control the drive tester</p>
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