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		<title>By: james hayes</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>james hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 20-year-old student&#039;s car was wrecked by a train after she followed her sat nav system onto a railway track. 
Paula Ceely, was driving her Renault Clio from Redditch, Worcestershire, to see her boyfriend at his parents&#039; home in Carmarthenshire for the first time. 

She was trying to cross the line in the dark when she heard a train horn, realised she was on the track, and the train smashed into the car. 

Transport police said drivers must take care with satellite navigation. 

The car was carried about half a mile (800m) down the line by the Pembroke Dock to Swansea train, although Ms Ceely escaped injury in the incident near Whitland. 

A second-year student at Birmingham University, she had borrowed the sat nav from her boyfriend, Tom Finucane, 21. 

&quot;I put my complete trust in the sat nav and it led me right into the path of a speeding train,&quot; she said. 

&quot;The crossing wasn&#039;t shown on the sat nav, there were no signs at all and it wasn&#039;t lit up to warn of an oncoming train. 

&quot;Obviously I had never done the journey before so I was using the sat nav - completely dependent on it,&quot; she said. 

&quot;I came to this crossing at Ffynongain and there was like a metal gate, which looked like just a normal farmers&#039; gate with a red circle on it 

&quot;I thought it was a dead end at first and then there was a little sign saying, if the light is green, open the gates and drive through. 

 
The car was hit up the railway line in the collision 

&quot;So I opened the gate, drove forward, closed the gate behind me and then went to go and open the gate in front of me. 

&quot;Then I heard this train and I noticed train tracks. It was only then that I did realise I was on a train crossing. 

&quot;I just stood back and I just watched this train come in front of me. 

&quot;I could feel the air just pass me and then my car just did a 360 degree turn on the tracks and was knocked to the other side.&quot; 

She said her initial thought when she heard the horn had been to get into her car and move it. 

&quot;It was so quick that if I had done that, I would have been in the car when it was hit,&quot; she said. 

&#039;Really lucky&#039; 

Ms Ceely said she had been &quot;really lucky&quot;. 

&quot;I can&#039;t completely blame the sat nav because up until there, it did get me where I needed to go,&quot; she added. 

  We would advise people to use sat navs with due caution 

Chief Inspector Paul Richards, British Transport Police  

&quot;If maybe I had been more aware of the situation, I wouldn&#039;t have had the accident. 

&quot;But I would be a bit more wary of the sat nav next time because they try to take you the shortest route, and not always the most accessible route and not always the safest route.&quot; 

She has returned to Wales since, but took the train rather than drive. 

&quot;I&#039;ll never use a sat nav again. You rely on them and if it all goes wrong, you&#039;re horribly stuck. 

&quot;People should be more careful with them - you never know where they might lead you.&quot; 

Chief Inspector Paul Richards of British Transport Police said they were investigating the incident. 

&quot;We would advise people to stop look and be careful and if you are in the middle of a field, you must know something is wrong, he added. 
Would she have seen it, if it was a truck, or the sat nav wanted her to go into the sea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 20-year-old student&#8217;s car was wrecked by a train after she followed her sat nav system onto a railway track.<br />
Paula Ceely, was driving her Renault Clio from Redditch, Worcestershire, to see her boyfriend at his parents&#8217; home in Carmarthenshire for the first time. </p>
<p>She was trying to cross the line in the dark when she heard a train horn, realised she was on the track, and the train smashed into the car. </p>
<p>Transport police said drivers must take care with satellite navigation. </p>
<p>The car was carried about half a mile (800m) down the line by the Pembroke Dock to Swansea train, although Ms Ceely escaped injury in the incident near Whitland. </p>
<p>A second-year student at Birmingham University, she had borrowed the sat nav from her boyfriend, Tom Finucane, 21. </p>
<p>&#8220;I put my complete trust in the sat nav and it led me right into the path of a speeding train,&#8221; she said. </p>
<p>&#8220;The crossing wasn&#8217;t shown on the sat nav, there were no signs at all and it wasn&#8217;t lit up to warn of an oncoming train. </p>
<p>&#8220;Obviously I had never done the journey before so I was using the sat nav &#8211; completely dependent on it,&#8221; she said. </p>
<p>&#8220;I came to this crossing at Ffynongain and there was like a metal gate, which looked like just a normal farmers&#8217; gate with a red circle on it </p>
<p>&#8220;I thought it was a dead end at first and then there was a little sign saying, if the light is green, open the gates and drive through. </p>
<p>The car was hit up the railway line in the collision </p>
<p>&#8220;So I opened the gate, drove forward, closed the gate behind me and then went to go and open the gate in front of me. </p>
<p>&#8220;Then I heard this train and I noticed train tracks. It was only then that I did realise I was on a train crossing. </p>
<p>&#8220;I just stood back and I just watched this train come in front of me. </p>
<p>&#8220;I could feel the air just pass me and then my car just did a 360 degree turn on the tracks and was knocked to the other side.&#8221; </p>
<p>She said her initial thought when she heard the horn had been to get into her car and move it. </p>
<p>&#8220;It was so quick that if I had done that, I would have been in the car when it was hit,&#8221; she said. </p>
<p>&#8216;Really lucky&#8217; </p>
<p>Ms Ceely said she had been &#8220;really lucky&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t completely blame the sat nav because up until there, it did get me where I needed to go,&#8221; she added. </p>
<p>  We would advise people to use sat navs with due caution </p>
<p>Chief Inspector Paul Richards, British Transport Police  </p>
<p>&#8220;If maybe I had been more aware of the situation, I wouldn&#8217;t have had the accident. </p>
<p>&#8220;But I would be a bit more wary of the sat nav next time because they try to take you the shortest route, and not always the most accessible route and not always the safest route.&#8221; </p>
<p>She has returned to Wales since, but took the train rather than drive. </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll never use a sat nav again. You rely on them and if it all goes wrong, you&#8217;re horribly stuck. </p>
<p>&#8220;People should be more careful with them &#8211; you never know where they might lead you.&#8221; </p>
<p>Chief Inspector Paul Richards of British Transport Police said they were investigating the incident. </p>
<p>&#8220;We would advise people to stop look and be careful and if you are in the middle of a field, you must know something is wrong, he added.<br />
Would she have seen it, if it was a truck, or the sat nav wanted her to go into the sea.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceanna Claar</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceanna Claar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither  - young and rich.  
Just the kind  you and your likes cannot abide.  
Consume yourself with jealousy.
And gorgeous too - and an IQ twice yours.
So stop wasting your time trying to best me.
There&#039;s just no way.  

And learn to stick to the topic.  It&#039;s trucks in case you have forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither  &#8211; young and rich.<br />
Just the kind  you and your likes cannot abide.<br />
Consume yourself with jealousy.<br />
And gorgeous too &#8211; and an IQ twice yours.<br />
So stop wasting your time trying to best me.<br />
There&#8217;s just no way.  </p>
<p>And learn to stick to the topic.  It&#8217;s trucks in case you have forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: james hayes</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>james hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poor girl, or is it old maid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poor girl, or is it old maid?</p>
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		<title>By: Ceanna Claar</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceanna Claar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way- I live in Galway.  Spot the 07 Bentley and you will have found me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way- I live in Galway.  Spot the 07 Bentley and you will have found me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceanna Claar</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1100</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceanna Claar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah James Hayes.

Surely you&#039;re one of those thugs who &quot;drive&quot; trucks.  For a trucker your command of the language does you credit.
If your not a trucker then you surely should be one.  Your contribution to the discussion is as valuable as the contribution of truckers to road safety.  Zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah James Hayes.</p>
<p>Surely you&#8217;re one of those thugs who &#8220;drive&#8221; trucks.  For a trucker your command of the language does you credit.<br />
If your not a trucker then you surely should be one.  Your contribution to the discussion is as valuable as the contribution of truckers to road safety.  Zero.</p>
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		<title>By: james hayes</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>james hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ceanna Claar, the poor girl is stuck in the past with her Paddy.
 And she was talking to a garda, and he told her all the insides of law.
 and then she knows all the Lawers and how bad they are, so she finisher with a remark about FF, now all that has been a great help to the Bullshite drivers.
she should tell us all where she ives and we all can go around and hear all she has to say, after all she spoke to a garda, but i forgot they will talk to anone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ceanna Claar, the poor girl is stuck in the past with her Paddy.<br />
 And she was talking to a garda, and he told her all the insides of law.<br />
 and then she knows all the Lawers and how bad they are, so she finisher with a remark about FF, now all that has been a great help to the Bullshite drivers.<br />
she should tell us all where she ives and we all can go around and hear all she has to say, after all she spoke to a garda, but i forgot they will talk to anone.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceanna Claar</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceanna Claar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the langer is correct.

I was speaking to a Garda this very morning on the subject.. He says a major issue with enforecement is the attitude of the judges.  It is all but impossible to persuade judges to uphold the law by issuing appropriate sentences.  

Some weasel lawyer will crawl out the dung heap and persuade &#039;mlord that there was some mind boggling excuse why poor Paddy was driving his truck through Kilmeaden at 70mph in the dusk with no lights on.  

Paddy will be sorry all his life for killing Jane the mother of three.

That&#039;s okay then Paddy - let that be a lesson to you.  Fined 100Euro and a suspended sentence of 6 monhts provided you don&#039;t drive over 100 mph in the truck in the next week.  And give my regards to your dad down at the FF Cumann.  Cheerio then lad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the langer is correct.</p>
<p>I was speaking to a Garda this very morning on the subject.. He says a major issue with enforecement is the attitude of the judges.  It is all but impossible to persuade judges to uphold the law by issuing appropriate sentences.  </p>
<p>Some weasel lawyer will crawl out the dung heap and persuade &#8216;mlord that there was some mind boggling excuse why poor Paddy was driving his truck through Kilmeaden at 70mph in the dusk with no lights on.  </p>
<p>Paddy will be sorry all his life for killing Jane the mother of three.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s okay then Paddy &#8211; let that be a lesson to you.  Fined 100Euro and a suspended sentence of 6 monhts provided you don&#8217;t drive over 100 mph in the truck in the next week.  And give my regards to your dad down at the FF Cumann.  Cheerio then lad.</p>
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		<title>By: the langer</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>the langer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in France if you go over 25 km/h over the speed limit you loose your license on the spot!! Sounds good to me!! We could eliminate thousands of speeding drivers throughout Ireland over a few years :-) 


Also, I think &#039;traffic school&#039; would be good for those who get 4 or more penalty points, in order to hold on to their license, where they could be reeducated about driving and attitudes - a course similar to roadcraft would be ideal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in France if you go over 25 km/h over the speed limit you loose your license on the spot!! Sounds good to me!! We could eliminate thousands of speeding drivers throughout Ireland over a few years <img src='http://shitedrivers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Also, I think &#8216;traffic school&#8217; would be good for those who get 4 or more penalty points, in order to hold on to their license, where they could be reeducated about driving and attitudes &#8211; a course similar to roadcraft would be ideal!</p>
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		<title>By: Ceanna Claar</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceanna Claar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ray.

That&#039;s the entire problem.  The bosses force the drivers into a position where speed = money.  

So why don&#039;t you report the firm to Gaybo and friends.  This is their baby now. Name and shame - it&#039;s the ONLY answer.

It&#039;s disgusting that this driver is gettingjust  Euro 10 per hour from this bunch of cowboys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ray.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the entire problem.  The bosses force the drivers into a position where speed = money.  </p>
<p>So why don&#8217;t you report the firm to Gaybo and friends.  This is their baby now. Name and shame &#8211; it&#8217;s the ONLY answer.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s disgusting that this driver is gettingjust  Euro 10 per hour from this bunch of cowboys.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceanna Claar</title>
		<link>http://shitedrivers.com/2007/08/30/speeding-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceanna Claar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>::mr.g::
Rant when you have the facts.  Look up the FACTS and see howmany trucks - as a percentage of those on the road are involved in fatal accidents.  You will be surprised.

After that, andafter the spelling lessons - read the article carefully.  It&#039;s ILLEGAL to speed.  It&#039;s ILLEGAL to tamper with the required speed restrictors. 

Is it your position that trucks should be allowed to speed and disable the speed restrictors?

If it is then:

1  Just come out and say  &quot;trucks can speed if they wish&quot;

2  have the courage to give your name instead of hiding behind &quot;mr g.&quot;  I can just imagine what the &quot;g&quot;stands for.  

If you won&#039;t do this then go moan on another subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>::mr.g::<br />
Rant when you have the facts.  Look up the FACTS and see howmany trucks &#8211; as a percentage of those on the road are involved in fatal accidents.  You will be surprised.</p>
<p>After that, andafter the spelling lessons &#8211; read the article carefully.  It&#8217;s ILLEGAL to speed.  It&#8217;s ILLEGAL to tamper with the required speed restrictors. </p>
<p>Is it your position that trucks should be allowed to speed and disable the speed restrictors?</p>
<p>If it is then:</p>
<p>1  Just come out and say  &#8220;trucks can speed if they wish&#8221;</p>
<p>2  have the courage to give your name instead of hiding behind &#8220;mr g.&#8221;  I can just imagine what the &#8220;g&#8221;stands for.  </p>
<p>If you won&#8217;t do this then go moan on another subject.</p>
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