Comments on: How to overtake http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/ Promoting good driving by exposing bad driving in Ireland Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:34:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mike http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-6086 Mike Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:22:35 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-6086 In response to Noel. Perhaps check your own spelling and grammar before complaining about Choicer's. See "b) The broken white line is comes to an end. " and perhaps research the correct use of the comma. Mike In response to Noel.

Perhaps check your own spelling and grammar before complaining about Choicer’s. See “b) The broken white line is comes to an end.
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and perhaps research the correct use of the comma.

Mike

]]> By: james hayes http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-1098 james hayes Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:49:21 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-1098 What? What?

]]> By: John Smith http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-697 John Smith Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:34:34 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-697 Best remedy: Provoke the other person and have your passenger film them. It's their word against your video recording of them beeping, flashing, giving the finger, etc... Unfair, mean, below the belt, but some people will never learn otherwise. Best remedy:
Provoke the other person and have your passenger film them.
It’s their word against your video recording of them beeping, flashing, giving the finger, etc…
Unfair, mean, below the belt, but some people will never learn otherwise.

]]> By: Chris S http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-695 Chris S Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:17:42 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-695 My apologies.. I posted an old 1964 link. A more current version, including Motorway rules can be found at http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0182.html#zzsi182y1997a9 I can't find a later update than that. This is the exact rules of the road. My apologies.. I posted an old 1964 link. A more current version, including Motorway rules can be found at
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0182.html#zzsi182y1997a9

I can’t find a later update than that. This is the exact rules of the road.

]]> By: Trev http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-692 Trev Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:18:26 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-692 I never flash or blow the horn when somebody is blocking the overtaking lane. I calmy undertake them on the left and they usually pull in after I pass (probably due to embarrasment). I drive a Nissan Almera diesel as a daily driver and probably carry out the above manouver twice a day. However, on Friday last I decided to treat myself and bring my Nissan Skyline. I carried out the above manouver which resulted in a middle aged man stuck to my bumper with one hand on his mobile phone, his other repeatedly "giving me the finger", and plenty of flashing lights for good measure. How he managed to complete all these tasks and keep his car in a straight line is beyond me........ I never flash or blow the horn when somebody is blocking the overtaking lane. I calmy undertake them on the left and they usually pull in after I pass (probably due to embarrasment).
I drive a Nissan Almera diesel as a daily driver and probably carry out the above manouver twice a day.

However, on Friday last I decided to treat myself and bring my Nissan Skyline. I carried out the above manouver which resulted in a middle aged man stuck to my bumper with one hand on his mobile phone, his other repeatedly “giving me the finger”, and plenty of flashing lights for good measure. How he managed to complete all these tasks and keep his car in a straight line is beyond me……..

]]> By: John Smith http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-622 John Smith Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:55:23 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-622 I looked everywhere and there does not seem to be any one rule prohibiting overtaking on the left. The current rules of the road say "overtake only on the right unless traffic is moving in slow moving queues, etc..." Also the point system has enough nebulous and wishy washy definitions that the guards could nick you for nothing every day of the week, as long as they can say "well, I THINK he was driving dangerously" And in any case there's dangerous overtaking. Since overtaking always has an element of risk it could be argued that ANYTIME you overtake it's dangerous. Let alone on the left. Sadly this seems to give numb nuts blocking the fast lane at 90 card blanche. Flashing and beeping him could be construed as roadrage, coupled with undertaking could land you in a heap of trouble. One could argue that blocking the fast lane might be construed as "driving without reasonable consideration" and that's a points and fixed penalty offense. But to make that stick you will need evidence, witnesses, etc... and it's not worth your while. So, things are looking bleak, unless you're the guy blocking the fast lane at 70-90 km/h, in which case, keep up the good work, good man, well done, everyone loves you and no one can tell you to move. I'm still building up my defense of "temporary insanity". I might need it one day. I looked everywhere and there does not seem to be any one rule prohibiting overtaking on the left.
The current rules of the road say “overtake only on the right unless traffic is moving in slow moving queues, etc…”
Also the point system has enough nebulous and wishy washy definitions that the guards could nick you for nothing every day of the week, as long as they can say “well, I THINK he was driving dangerously”
And in any case there’s dangerous overtaking. Since overtaking always has an element of risk it could be argued that ANYTIME you overtake it’s dangerous. Let alone on the left.
Sadly this seems to give numb nuts blocking the fast lane at 90 card blanche.
Flashing and beeping him could be construed as roadrage, coupled with undertaking could land you in a heap of trouble.
One could argue that blocking the fast lane might be construed as “driving without reasonable consideration” and that’s a points and fixed penalty offense. But to make that stick you will need evidence, witnesses, etc… and it’s not worth your while.
So, things are looking bleak, unless you’re the guy blocking the fast lane at 70-90 km/h, in which case, keep up the good work, good man, well done, everyone loves you and no one can tell you to move.
I’m still building up my defense of “temporary insanity”. I might need it one day.

]]> By: Freelander http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-621 Freelander Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:00:54 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-621 That bit of the law does not say that undertaking is allowed when the outer lane is going slower, it says "in slow-moving traffic, when vehicles in the traffic lane on the driver's right are moving more slowly than the overtaking vehicle." - copied and pasted so as not to make any errors. The critical words for me are "in slow-moving traffic". This applies on e.g. the M50 in rush hour (sic) and times when traffic is slow or crawling. It does not apply normal driving on motorways when some dingbat is doing 90 in the overtaking lane and someone undertakes at 120. That bit of the law does not say that undertaking is allowed when the outer lane is going slower, it says “in slow-moving traffic, when vehicles in the traffic lane on the driver’s right are moving more slowly than the overtaking vehicle.” – copied and pasted so as not to make any errors. The critical words for me are “in slow-moving traffic”. This applies on e.g. the M50 in rush hour (sic) and times when traffic is slow or crawling. It does not apply normal driving on motorways when some dingbat is doing 90 in the overtaking lane and someone undertakes at 120.

]]> By: Chris S http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-620 Chris S Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:24:05 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-620 whooaaa hold on where are you getting your laws from. The Rules of the Road are NOT the detailed Law. The Law is as laid passed by the Oireachtas in Primary and secondary legislation , and added to by local council bye-laws. Undertaking is allowed when when the outer lane is going slower. End. of . Story. here is the EXACT definition of the law. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1964/en/si/0294.html#zzsi294y1964a19 whooaaa hold on where are you getting your laws from.

The Rules of the Road are NOT the detailed Law. The Law is as laid passed by the Oireachtas in Primary and secondary legislation , and added to by local council bye-laws.

Undertaking is allowed when when the outer lane is going slower. End. of . Story.

here is the EXACT definition of the law.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1964/en/si/0294.html#zzsi294y1964a19

]]> By: Niall O'K http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-551 Niall O'K Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:20:46 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-551 Jason: Picking on someones grammar and spelling and not the points they make is frankly pointless and contributes nothing to the discussion. Jason: Picking on someones grammar and spelling and not the points they make is frankly pointless and contributes nothing to the discussion.

]]> By: Jason http://shitedrivers.com/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/comment-page-2/#comment-519 Jason Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:29:21 +0000 http://shitedrivers.com/index.php/2007/07/31/how-to-overtake/#comment-519 Fergus, I hope your driving is better than your grammar and spelling. Jaysus! Fergus,

I hope your driving is better than your grammar and spelling. Jaysus!

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