And the kids of Dundalk complain that there’s nothing for them to do…!
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so the kids are trying to drift..
I know there are better things they could be doing but half the problem is there is no facilities made available for teenagers. im a 34 year old and feel that alienating teenagers is not a solution. burning off a set of tyres in a carpark is a lot safer then 100mph in a 30 zone..
did you ever consider that these teenagers are level headed enough to frown on bad driving that they see every day. Its not double standards its just that drifting is now a popular sub culture and no where near as dangerous as some of the suicidal driving on our roads daily..
ps i think this website is going to be popular
countsian
The age old “No faclities being made available to kids” is a piss-poor excuse in fairness. Dundalk has a hell of a lot to offer with plenty of local GAA and football clubs, an international standard ice hockey rink, a cinema, teen discos, youth clubs and loads more besides.
cmon if your not gaa then ur not in…………..
welcome to europe where gaa has never been heard of..
i love the gaa as much as our fellow new countrymen but please….
no funding for any other sport in this country unless the national lottery helps out…
i know lets live in the past. its the mtv culture growing up and they want to do more then we did. god help them for that..
o yea you forgot the two chippers and a post office line..
the only item is the ice rink which is sadly under funded as its not gaa….
. i appreciate that its the common cry but last time i met these young people the enjoy not conforming to popular mainsteam activities..
they like to be different.. thats not a crime but tellin them they should be at the local gaa match is only feeding into the problem..
get out and ask kids what they want to do and what facilities they would like to have…
no lets tell them to play gaa………….
just like us……….
Where within niall’s reply did you come to the conclusion that he was implying everyone should play gaa??? Drifting is antisocial and completely illegal..let’s not be promoting this type of behaviour amongst the youth of today…which is certainly what you are doing!!!
First of all lets get one thing straight..
Drifting is not antisocial,
Drifting is not illegal,
It is a style of driving which has its roots in motorsport
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)
However!!
Morons who practice drifting on public roads are antisocial and illegal.
Odds are that you owe the person in the clip an apology as his activity may be perfectly legal. for one thing it doesn’t appear to be on a public road, and providing the person who owns the land is ok with it then it is not illegal!
Now.. to show that i’m not overly biased on this matter i’m going to show you some very very illegal ‘drifting’ on Irish roads which appears to be carried out by British drivers.. (that said, their nationality is not the point)
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=M9hCC3-sALk
People who drive on public roads in the manner shown in the clip i’ve posted deserve nothing less than a 10 year driving ban and to be prohibited from holding even a motorsports licence as they plainly have no regard for anyones lives.
Oh, and heres more of it in a feckin truck,
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=w1Ddc2tgH-c&mode=related&search=
It might be fair to assume that the truck which is following is right hand drive and the driver is using a camera phone to video the stunt.
So drifting can be legal and moron drivers are moron drivers, whether they’re drifting, speeding or pulling handbrake turns
Fair point!!
countsian – GAA was only ONE example I gave of something local youngsters could take part in – a lot of them do take part in it. There’s also the cinema, bowling alley, ice rink, youth clubs, etc. I always found the “there’s nothing to do” a excuse pretty poor one to be honest especially when it’s used as an excuse for anti-social behaviour.
“So drifting can be legal and moron drivers are moron drivers, whether they’re drifting, speeding or pulling handbrake turns”
yes tom your undeniably correct on this fact
thanks for answering that one..
now aside from all this its the alienation of the teenagers that allows their exploitation.. all that energy and no way to express it.. simple. kids are not all bad just the small few.
anyway it was a good debate..
Anti-social? The concept does not exit in Ireland! Is there an Irish language word for the concept? You need intelligence to hae a social conscience. Get real! LOL!
Hey sorry for the typos. New keyboard and all that!
this is the entry
Anti-social? The concept does not exist in Ireland! Is there an Irish language word for the concept? You need intelligence to have a social conscience. Get real! LOL!
i am a teen in dundalk and theres loads to do here!!!cinema,bowling alley,ice rink,marshes shopping centre,all the clubs (tho we do hit the over 18s too) football clubs and other sports (not me personally but i know plenty who do) the parks,thers loads and people who are “bored” and say “theres nothin to do” make it that way themselves
I am also a teen in Dundalk & not all of us like doing the activities that ‘me!’ likes to do,so I dont think its fair that we should be judged. There is places to go for people who likes football,cinema,bowling ice-skating,shopping e.t.c but where is there to go for the ones who like cars & diffin/drifting? Nowhere!!! I dont do it on a public road,just in private places away from the public,but I would still love somewhere that I could go properly.There is places in different counties round Ireland where you can pay about €10 to drift your car,in large tarmac/concrete areas.Why cant anyone set this up here in Dundalk for us?Its a brilliant idea,the ones who have done this around Ireland are making a fortune.I would gladly pay to do it.But I suppose you’s would still find something to complain about..!! I agree with Tom 100% in everything he says & I think hes right in saying you owe the person in the clip an apology.What harm is he doing?Hes away from harming anyone & to be honest with you I dont think hes a teenager,he doesnt look it & he abviously knows what hes doing,hes got full control on the car the whole time!
check this clip out on the ballymac roundabout,it might be illegal but its well done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0nusam3_Yk
Although there is plenty to do in dundalk for people into sports there isnt one thing for people who are into diffin/drifting. for this you hav to go to the likes of mondello park, nuts coner and bishops court. now these places are all far away and are hard to get to for young people.if there was a place hre in dundalk for htese “drifters” to go to may b they would be less madness on our roads…
I’d sooner like to see a school for Advanced Driving than a “Diffin’” course, to be perfectly honest.
give me a break, a place to drift? you forget to mention it needs to be open at 3am when “skid” and his idiot mates are doing this around the streets of the town.
to give them credit at least they were not the ones doing it on a sunday afternoon with young kids playing beside the road on a patch of grass.
and when the local gardi finally arrived to stop them? the local parents shouted abuse at the gardi.
what would they shout if the car had crashed and killed one of their kids? and not long before the same corner was the scene of an accident when a pair of fools on a motorbike came off the road and hit a wall.
gardi show up and suddenly everyone is deaf dumb and blind.
thank god i dont have to live there,shame my in laws do.
corner of marian park/ashling park.20 yards from a large open grass area where they could pull thier stunts in peace with no danger to the public trying to use this road.
We would be happy for it to be open during the day even just Saturday & Sundays. Theres a big difference between boy-racers(show off’s speeding up & down the roads/streets)& people who just wanna diff(going round in circles off the roads & streets). I wonder what way you would all react if you couldnt do something you enjoyed doing??? But it doesnt matter because all your needs seem to be catered for,so f**k the ones who like diffin,is that your selfish attitude,yea? I agree with big-tom,alot of boys,& girls for that matter do this on the roads because they have nowhere to go.You’s are trying to say that we have to like doing other things that is already available to do,well we just dont.I bet there is less agro with “boy-racers” (as you call them)in the countys where they have diffin areas!!! Some people are so narrow minded that they just dont want to think of it from our point of view, force them into liking football,that the answer yea, or just keep nagging to make yourselves feel better? By the way Niall,bad heading. Thats not “Shite driving” its diffin in a safe area.What id call shite driving is nosey know it alls too busy watching what other drivers are doing & not watching the road properly themselves…………that could cause an unnessasary accident you know!!!
Niall:
I’m a Dundalk man myself,if you want to learn what drifting is all about & do something about it for people who want to do it & realise its not joy-riding,its a sport,then go to Youtube & type in SIDEWAYS IRELAND & watch part 1 & 2.Young people who like this sport have nowhere to go to practice drifting.It would be nice to have somewhere for them to go(hence,they have to diff in public places). So if you want to do something productive rather than critisize them for doing it then get a drifting area open in Dundalk & make everyone happy,the drifters & the public….!!!!!
P.S not everyone likes football,you need reminding of that.
Hope you can do something for us.
Yours sincerely,
Drifting lovers.
Hah. Drifting is a “sport” now, eh? Funny.
“get a drifting area open in Dundalk”
I’d rather not, thanks.
“P.S not everyone likes football,you need reminding of that.”
No, actually, I don’t.
“Hope you can do something for us.”
Why would I WANT to? Hope you can get a real hobby.
Drifting IS a sport Niall..!!! And it IS a real hobby,you’d want to look into it a bit better before you start ranting on. Talking about what other people is doing on the roads however IS NOT a hobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are so far up yourself you cant even begin to understand what it is all about.Its not that you cant,you just dont want to bother because you’re too busy nagging about it. WEll bitching about it isnt going to make it go away Niall,but opening a safe drifting area to do it will…!!!! Are you getting it yet or do I have to draw a picture for you before you finally realise?????
I know exactly what you’re saying Tiff. There’s no need to “draw me a picture” or to be such a smart-ass. I just happen … shock horror!… to DISAGREE with you… !
I don’t see drifting as a ‘sport’ or even as a worthwhile way of passing time. I think idiots who take part in it on public roads (as shown in some of the YouTube videos linked to in comments above) should be locked up. I personally have no interest in it as an activity and don’t believe that anyone should be encouraged to do it.
Strangely enough, I’m apparently entitled to that opinion, as you are yours. Go figure.
Oh, and if you can’t post a comment on this site without being ignorant or insulting, you needn’t bother posting the comment as it may just be removed.
Cheers!
I am not being ignorant or insulting & if i came across that way i didnt mean to.I think you are actually being ignorant towards the topic.You see it as your way or no way.I know you are entitled to your opinion,but your not just stating your opinion you’re trying to convince people that drifting is not a sport when in fact it is.I dont think talking about other people is “a worthwhile way of passing time” & you dont think drifting is,so you just keep on talking & ill just keep on drifting(not on the public roads by the way)! I dont think drifting should be going on on public roads either but if there was a drifting area then it wouldnt happen on the public roads in the first place!!! I understand how frightened some people may be when they see this on the roads & thats why Id love to see a drifting area in Dundalk to prevent this from happening.Just try to think about it from our point of view like I have from yours! How would you like it if I constantly nagged you about something that you really enjoyed & loved doing & told you you couldnt do it coz there was nowhere to do it & its pointless & not worthwhile & to tell you that you HAVE to find something else to do?Just have a good tink about that situation please Niall…
By the way Niall,im not being smart but just to point out this all started with some guy diffin in a safe area where there was no other cars or people,not on a public road!!!
That’s the main problem in Ireland. We pick something up that we don’t personally like and set about “stamping it out”.
This in turn has only one result. The people concerned vow “to fight this attempt at our civil liberties to the end”.
So the stage is set for a battle to the end. The only people winning are solicitors, consultants and politicians who score brownie points of whatever side by pretending to be sympathetic.
Everything has to be settled confrontational, one side is right, the other wrong.
One day there will be a battle to the last man standing over whether cars should be green or red. Everyone else is wrong and should be locked up.
It is this attitude of “We are right and everyone else can go to hell” that mostly pisses me off about modern day Ireland.
Example 1:
My neighbour has a moustache. I really don’t like it and will devote my every living moment to outlaw facial hair on every person.
I won’t be able to sleep until everyone shaves off their beards and I will take it to Europe if I must!
That’s not disagreeing, that’s being ignorant, intolerant, smallminded, petty and downright hostile.
Example 2:
My neighbour has a moustache. I really don’t like it and sometimes when I see him I say “That is one hideous moustache, but if it makes you happy you can keep it, as long as it doesn’t do donuts on my lawn”.
THAT’S disagreeing.
Saying “I’m right and you are wrong” is just plain pigheadedness.
I might disagree with what you’re saying, but I will fight to my last breath for your right to say it!
I’m not ranting, I’m not nagging. Tiff, you’re entitled to your opinion AS I SAID – as I am, mine.
Quote: You see it as your way or no way. WRONG! Our opinions just differ, that’s all. You think drifting is a sport and a worthwhile past-time, I think the opposite is true. You think there should be an area in Dundalk dedicated to it. I disagree.
I just don’t bloody like “diffin’” and that’s that.
There you go. It’s a simple difference of opinion but I honestly really don’t care about the subject matter enough to get into a pointless drawn out debate on it.
Once again, this ISN’T a discussion forum – it’s a blog.
You guys think having a drifting place in your area will solve the problem?Wrong,theres a cart track in watergrasshill in cork which is used for drifting.Guess what,we still have assholes practicing on the road cos theyre to tight to pay to use the track.Also a local buisness man was putting up the cash to extend the track to a useful size a few years ago but the locals objected on the grounds of noise so it never happened.Which brings us up to my next point,do you want the driftin area next to your house?Yes?What about in a few years if you have kids and you cant get them or yourself to sleep cos some d**khead is out side bouncing off his rev limiter all night?
So what’s wrong with people going to a track and wrecking their cars if they want to? Also, if there was a track, what makes you think they’re open all night? Don’t you think they’d have opening times?
But maybe, yes we should ban everything in Ireland that isn’t “Family Friendly”. How dare we have activities going on that aren’t “family oriented”?
If they do it on a public road they are dickheads of course and they endanger their and everyone elses life.
The same could be said about ralley drivers. Bunch of shifty boyracers that want to drive their cars like complete arseholes. Should not be allowed, there should not be any racetracks and having a rally on a public road is just luncay! It clearly encourages road races, souped up cars and other “morally questionable” behaviour, such as diffin’ and donuts. Lock ‘em up and throw away the key! Let’s make Ireland the first country that only allows activites for families.
Give everyone a Micra limited to 30 km/h, wrap everyone in bubblewrap and paint the country grey. Then hand me the cyanide and a loaded revolver to blow my brains out.